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Behavioral Economics 3 years 2 months ago #529

Gee, how did I get italics?

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Behavioral Economics 3 years 2 months ago #534

Since you know about scarcity mindsets, are you aware of abundance economics? I've been researching abundance economics for about the past 8 years since the local Occupy Movement group I was involved with dissolved. Other than my husband, the people that I met during Occupy were more interested in tearing down the current system, than inventing new ways to handle systemic problems.

I want to get beyond the old capitalism vs. socialism bunk. Resource Based Economy concepts really interest me, and I've also looked into gift economies, sharing economies and I need to do some more in depth study of the Viable System Model as developed by Stafford Beer. I'm really fond of Peter Joseph's work The New Human Rights Movement: Reinventing the Economy to End Oppression, which treats our economy as a public health issue. The one thing I don't see nearly enough people addressing is how we re-enculturate a populous that has been inundated by capitalist propaganda all their lives, without succumbing to centralized, authoritarian, social control schemes.

I'm in favor of a three tiered economy. Small communities engaging in peer to peer time banking, regional resource based economies defined by watersheds or other naturally delineated groupings, and a global information economy which rewards information creators who can hold the attention of individuals while communicating content with intrinsic value. These are very broad strokes, but I do have some ideas about creating a bureaucracy which can identify valuable information while fighting against bias.

Part of developing the information agency and the small communities is creating that short hand way of communicating world view and values. Do you have any insights into sociology stemming from you unique life experiences?

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Behavioral Economics 3 years 2 months ago #539

I was really interested in The Venus Project, but communes tend to quickly become dictatorships. That was the strength of the Occupy Movement, that they did not have a centralized authority system. But it was also their weakness, in that they could not ultimately present an alternative to the Elite-run Banking system with it's legalized gambling.

I've researched the old Native Tribal system of rule by committee of 'Grandmothers'. The trouble with that was that individuals got sucked into the 'system' and their personal needs tended to come last. But as an economic system, it operated for millennia.

I personally could not find a balance between shared resources and personal freedoms. Not in a long term stable society. It may have been my own personal programming in a capitalist system.

I do see the entire world sliding into totalitarianism enforced by computers. Basically China-for-everyone. With automated surveillance and enforcement of even the tiniest of infractions. This is the goal of UN Agenda 2030.

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Behavioral Economics 3 years 2 months ago #541

I'd like to share with you an essay I wrote last spring. The idea I communicate in it is about a DDU or Direct Democratic Unit. This is the idea I've developed to counter act the habit of small communities to collapse towards the most powerful personality. I've been talking about wanting to join an intentional community for years, but my husband's experience is that they become sex cults.

Direct Democracy:
A Path Towards Type 1 Civilization


When I first learned of the Kardashev scale of civilizations, I realized I couldn’t imagine a story which would bring us from our current multinational discorde into a global civilization, without great strife. Artists depict this subject matter by imagining faciest or socialist totalitarian bureaucracies or a world rebuilding after a society collapsing disaster. This cultural theme obfuscates the idea that we already live as citizens of a global oligarchy.
As someone who has made seeking wisdom through stories the focus of my intellectual life, I’m seeking to tell the story of becoming a global civilization through new growth. For too long Gold, and the understanding of individual worth that philosophy espouses, has steered our global course. Capitalism, the love of Gold, has been like a fungal bloom smothering, breaking up and consuming the remains of other economic organisms. This Golden bloom has run its course and must soon die back. In its wake we must seek out and nurture the seeds of older economic systems which have lain dormant.
The danger of this situation is that the newly sprouting economic systems will treat each other as competitors for the role of the new economic monoculture. The much healthier option is to nurture an integrated ecology of specialized economic systems. The value of objects, actions and information can and should be determined through different processes. There are Resource Based Economy (RBE) advocates who have developed plans for valuing and sharing material objects. The development of an effective, honest information economy requires cooperative global efforts which we are not yet ready. Individual actions, can however, undergo a revaluation if we can start building social units able to engage in direct democracy.
I propose we do this by reviving an economic/political unit at the level of a village or band. There is some research by evolutionary anthropologists and sociologists, often referred to as Dunbar’s Number, which indicates that 150 people is the maximum comfortable size for a group of people self organizing without the help of advanced technology. Since this is the group size which allows all members a chance to maintain a meaningful relationship with all other group members, I consider 150 people or less to be the ideal size for direct democratic communities. If we have people organize into groups of this size, and make each village responsible to each other for food security in times of hardship and disaster, then we’ll have a basic social unit with good potential for cohesion and solidarity. These Direct Democratic Units (DDUs) would then select members to represent them at the next level of economic/political units, which would also be held to 150 maximum members, thereby creating a representative government with a direct democratic base.
With our direct democratic seedbeds prepared, we can start to determine the real value of work in an equitable community. The requirements which all the DDUs would share would be the size restriction and the need to provide food security for all members. Some will be tempted to organize like small towns in an earlier era of capitalism, having outside jobs and contributing cash. The ones who organize as collectives not exchanging cash within the DDU will have the opportunity to show the practical value of other economic systems. I expect a time banking model to be one of the early successes. If the DDU runs its own internal time bank it will be easy to determine how many labor hours it takes to care for the whole community. Highly automated communities may be able to provide a high quality of life for all their members without taking up much time and showcase the quality of art and science which can be produced by a society which has given up the labor for income model.
As people get sorted out into DDUs many different community types should develop. Depending on the world view of the members some groups will opt for low tech high manual labor other groups will opt for high tech and low manual labor. DDUs would also be encouraged to decide on some type of possible disaster scenario, pandemic, earthquake, civil unrest, etc., which their community would be positioned to survive. One of the main sorting functions will be around diet, since the members will be mutually responsible for food security. Very compact DDUs could be made by vegetarians with automated vertical farms. Those preserving warrior cultures for their survival potential will want to live in DDUs positioned to accommodate hunting of lands cared for by the group and/or small scale animal agriculture.
Some of the most difficult worldviews to accommodate will likely be Nihilists and Religious Evangelists. Let me describe a DDU which would accommodate both worldviews. Nihilists are difficult to enculturate because they start from a place of not believing in anything except seeking pleasure as the purpose of existence. And Evangelists would be likely to use religious adherence to subvert the democratic process, if boundaries are not drawn to establish a maximum percentage of people adhering to the same worldview which could reside in the same community. A DDU could be formed with up to one third of residential spaces reserved for Nihilists. They would get access to basic needs and whatever intoxicants the population desires. In return the Nihilists would give up their reproductive rights and parental rights to any minor children. The Evangelists would be permitted to proselytize to the Nihilists in return for doing the work of maintaining food security and cleanliness for the DDU. Another third of this DDU would have to be made up of people from other worldviews like Humanism or a non-evangelical religious belief.
In these kinds of direct democratic experimental environments, we will have the opportunity to really work out the value of an individual’s time, efforts, and actions. I feel the action of giving up the chance for reproduction is quite valuable, but it will be up to individual DDUs to see what they can manage to offer in exchange for that action. If they live in the same community and are directly responsible to each other, people will have to reevaluate stigmas surrounding labor and the value of an individual's time. Any DDU organized around surviving a pandemic, will need to be able to seal its gates for months at a time and meet all the needs of its people internally. People with professions requiring extensive education, may find their contributions less valuable than those whose talents lie in traditionally undervalued areas like cleaning, cooking and childcare. In a class segregated society people paying for these services can easily ignore the effort of people providing these services, but if these people are engaging in direct democracy that ignorance will be challenged whenever political decisions are made.

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Behavioral Economics 3 years 2 months ago #542

Once a structure like the DDU exists, then we could move forward into the larger order, organizational structures which could unify humanity without homogenizing us. I have a personal philosophy which I term Gaist. I see the current situation on Earth as analogous to an individual being who's body has been colonized by an invasive parasitic bacteria. We as the bacteria, could evolve to become symbiotic organ systems within the Gaia body, echoing the evolution of early multi cellular systems.

I would like to participate in developing the global neural network. I have a half finished slide presentation about how I would handle balances of power and tendency towards bias. I don't know how this system would handle a link to a Google Slide presentation, but I'd be willing to share it here.

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Behavioral Economics 3 years 2 months ago #548

You would need to ask Ian here. He's the IT tech who understands the software.

I'm the 'face' who interacts with the people.

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